http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/ Evidence of FYROM propaganda to be discussed here.. en Sat, 04 Sep 2010 18:11:46 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/images/misc/rss.png http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/ http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11744-Sam-Vaknin-A-more-sophisticated-Stevov&goto=newpost Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:30:32 GMT http://globalpolitician.com/26576-macedonia-greece-name-dispute-albanians http://globalpolitician.com/26576-ma...pute-albanians ]]> Propaganda Forum HELLENICLEAGUE http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11744-Sam-Vaknin-A-more-sophisticated-Stevov http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11736-%CE%9C%CE%B5-%CF%84%CE%BF%CE%BD-%CE%89%CE%BB%CE%B9%CE%BF-%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%82-%CE%92%CE%B5%CF%81%CE%B3%CE%AF%CE%BD%CE%B1%CF%82-%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B7%CE%B3%CF%85%CF%81%CE%AF%CE%B6%CE%B5%CE%B9-%CE%BF-%CE%A3%CE%BA%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%B9%CE%B1%CE%BD%CF%8C&goto=newpost Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:27:48 GMT http://www.kathimerini.gr/4dcgi/_w_a...08/2010_352781

Με τον «Ήλιο της Βεργίνας» πανηγυρίζει ο Σκοπιανός ΥΠΕΞ
Φωτογραφία του Αντόνιο Μιλόσοσκι με τον τρίχρονο γιο του να κρατά σημαία με τον «Ήλιο της Βεργίνας», σε αγώνα μπάσκετ.

Η ταμπλόιντ εφημερίδα των Σκοπίων «Βεστ» (Vest), η οποία είναι από τις μεγαλύτερες σε κυκλοφορία εφημερίδα στην ΠΓΔΜ, δημοσιεύει στο σημερινό της πρωτοσέλιδο, φωτογραφία του υπουργού των Εξωτερικών Αντόνιο Μιλόσοσκι με τον 3χρονο γιο του αγκαλιά, κατά τη διάρκεια αγώνα μπάσκετ στα Σκόπια, μεταξύ ΠΓΔΜ-Μ. Βρετανίας, που πραγματοποιήθηκε την Δευτέρα.
Ο τίτλος του σχετικού δημοσιεύματος είναι: «Αντόνιο Μιλόσοσκι: Θέλω ο γιος μου όταν μεγαλώσει να γίνει αθλητής και όχι πολιτικός».
Στο δημοσίευμα υπάρχουν δηλώσεις του κ. Μιλόσοσκι σχετικά με το πόσο ο γιος του απόλαυσε τον αγώνα και στο γεγονός ότι δείχνει έφεση προς τον αθλητισμό.
Εντύπωση προκαλεί το γεγονός ότι ο 3χρονος γιος του υπουργού Εξωτερικών της ΠΓΔΜ, στην αγκαλιά του πατέρα του, κρατά σημαία με τον «Ήλιο της Βεργίνας».
Στο δημοσίευμα της εφημερίδας, ωστόσο, δεν υπάρχει σχετική αναφορά σε αυτό. ]]> Propaganda Forum HELLENICLEAGUE http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11736-%CE%9C%CE%B5-%CF%84%CE%BF%CE%BD-%CE%89%CE%BB%CE%B9%CE%BF-%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%82-%CE%92%CE%B5%CF%81%CE%B3%CE%AF%CE%BD%CE%B1%CF%82-%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B7%CE%B3%CF%85%CF%81%CE%AF%CE%B6%CE%B5%CE%B9-%CE%BF-%CE%A3%CE%BA%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%B9%CE%B1%CE%BD%CF%8C http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11734-Name-is-a-name-Again&goto=newpost Thu, 26 Aug 2010 09:09:44 GMT http://movies.broadwayworld.com/article/A_Name_Is_a_Name_Premieres_at_Masonic_Temple_Theatre_911_20100825 Xoste. http://movies.broadwayworld.com/arti...e_911_20100825

Xoste. ]]> Propaganda Forum HELLENICLEAGUE http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11734-Name-is-a-name-Again http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11731-Macedonian-chief-killed-by-Macedonian-woman&goto=newpost Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:48:54 GMT Maktruth propagandists try to convince us that Todor Dimitrov,(better known by his nickname Panitza) was a "Macedonian" chief that was assasinated in Vienna by a "Macedonian" woman,Mancia Karniciu:





But how much Macedonian where both Dimitrov-Panitza and Karniciu?
Manca Karniciu (or Karnicheva) was of Vlach origin:



And Dimitrov-Panitsa was Bulgarian:





And probably he had some Albanian origin too.His name was Todor Arnautovic Panitza...doesn't Arnautovic mean "son of the Albanian"?



"Dennoch erschoß im Frühjahr 1925 im Wiener Burgtheater die Frau des VMRO-Führers Ivan Mihajlov, MenciaKarniciu, den makedonischen Politiker Todor Arnautovic Panizza'"
(Also in spring of 1925 the wife of the VWRO leader Ivan Mihailov shot at the Vienna Burg Theater the Macedonian politician Todor Arnautovic Panizza).


However this "Macedonian" politician was born in Oryahovo,near the Danube:





Just look where Oryahovo located is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oryahovo ]]> Propaganda Forum Kapetan Doukas http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11731-Macedonian-chief-killed-by-Macedonian-woman http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11727-Review-Ordered-Into-Controversial-FYROM-School-Books&goto=newpost Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:53:05 GMT http://www.eurasiareview.com/2010082...ool-books.html

Macedonia's Education Ministry had ordered an urgent review of school textbooks amid widespread criticism of their quality - just a week before the start of the new academic year. Review boards will begin assembling on Monday to launch a month-long inquiry into the standard of the books' content, Nikola Todorov said.

He told local broadcaster A1 TV: “We have to start pinpointing those who made mistakes.”

The revision comes amid a series of widely reported flaws in the New Elementary School Society textbook for primary school pupils which had been approved by the state.

FYROMacedonian pop stars and celebrities were portrayed as distinguished cultural figures *
and former government ministers and ambassadors to the country were wrongfully included as present office holders.

The book is being rewritten on the orders of the education ministry.

Other state-approved textbooks have also been slammed, including a physics book which gave a wrong description of ions and allegedly contained pictures illegally copied from Croatian manuals.

Todorov said two out of three members of a board who assessed it had voted for it to be approved.

The textbooks for fifth grade students are to be reviewed by the National Commission for Textbooks, the Bureau for Educational Development and experts at faculties across the country, he said.

The opposition Social Democrats have called for Todorov's resignation, but he has insisted he was not directly to blame for the mistakes.

Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski has not commented on the controversy.


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* Well.. thats all they got really. ;P

Did nobody check the History books??
Im sure there is gold there to.. ]]> Propaganda Forum HELLENICLEAGUE http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11727-Review-Ordered-Into-Controversial-FYROM-School-Books http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11722-Wrong-Map&goto=newpost Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:03:41 GMT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia This has a wrong map. Good if someone replaces it with the real bordes, cause it would leave most of FYRoM... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia

This has a wrong map.
Good if someone replaces it with the real bordes, cause it would leave most of FYRoM out of the black highlight!.

Cmon!, get on it! ;) ]]> Propaganda Forum HELLENICLEAGUE http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11722-Wrong-Map http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11716-bulgar-slav-onskis-on-an-al-jazeera-european-blog&goto=newpost Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:21:30 GMT http://blogs.aljazeera.net/europe/2010/08/18/macedonia-ancient-name-modern-dispute Posting the usual crap they post. Need more posts to counter... http://blogs.aljazeera.net/europe/20...modern-dispute

Posting the usual crap they post. Need more posts to counter their false claims and fantasies. ]]> Propaganda Forum stelliosSerres http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11716-bulgar-slav-onskis-on-an-al-jazeera-european-blog http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11714-Macedonian-media-a-muddle-serving-the-interests-of-power&goto=newpost Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:41:05 GMT The brutal dismissal at the end of July of five journalists from one private Macedonian TV station has sparked a heated debate about the government's political and economic influence on the media.
The TV station Kanal5 is owned by the son of a prominent politician from the governing coalition, Boris Stojmenov. The station tried to justify the sackings by the economic crisis and the need to save money. But the explanations failed to silence suspicions that the request for the journalists' dismissal originated in the cabinet of Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski, because of their alleged closeness to the socialist opposition.

Macedonian TV: it is hard to say who owns what and who is capable of pulling strings (Photo: Dnevnik/Macedonia)

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A lack of transparency in the media is probably the biggest problem. Cross media ownership of broadcasting stations and newspapers is illegal but it is widely assumed that coalition politicians and close relatives are, at least indirectly, in simultaneous control of print and electronic media anyway.
The political parties are not willing to introduce a tighter regime because that would mean they would have to give up valuable power tools. This had led the industry into open crisis. Most journalists in Macedonia are poorly paid and they do not enjoy social benefits. The three daily publications of the German WAZ Media Group and the bilingual Albanian-Macedonian TV channels Alsat-M and Alfa are exceptions.
In an interview for the Dnevnik daily, Aidan White, Secretary-General of the International Federation of Journalists (IFJ), said: "The lack of transparency is a scandal for democracy. Politicians may talk about building democracy, publish declarations on human rights and honesty, but not to have full transparency of their interests in the media is unacceptable. The two major problems for the media in Macedonia and other countries in the region are political interference and a lack of good laws that would regulate the media market."
"The media have a responsibility to be even more transparent than other businesses," Mr White said. "If they want credibility, it should be publicly known who they are and where the money comes from."
Macedonian experts agree the problem is first and foremost one of implementation. Communications expert Klime Babunski points out that the Broadcasting Law calls for ownership to be laid open. In theory it is impossible to get a licence without submitting a clear ownership structure. But ambiguities and loopholes in the law leave a wide space for manipulation.
"The government has a political and economic interest to tolerate such a chaos in the media. Since the first Broadcasting Law in 1997 things have worsened instead of improving," Mr Babunski said. Regulative measures promised by the Broadcasting Council last year have failed to materialise.
Zoran Stefanovski, the president of the Broadcasting Council, concedes that a special law on media ownership would be helpful. He also agrees that the IFJ's Mr White is correct in identifying the most pressing problems in the media sector, including political support being bought through government-sponsored advertising and political and enonomic pressures on journalists.
"An additional problem is that for print media there is no regulation at all. We don't have a law for the media as most European and countries in the region have," he said.
According to Zaneta Trajkovska, the director of the Macedonian School of Journalism and Public Relations, legislation without implementation is useless. Journalists themselves were hesitant whether or not to press for a new law, she said: "We need to seriously discuss the advantages and disadvantages. Such a law will set out both the rights and the responsibilities of journalists and media owners. The journalistic scene must not be afraid of pressures - they will not occur if we have a strong association of journalists or self-regulatory body."
In its annual progress reports on Macedonia, the European Commission regularly pays special attention to the media, criticising them for being subject to political interference. So far, these critical remarks from Brussels have not had any substantial impact in Macedonia itself.


http://waz.euobserver.com/887/30640 ]]> Propaganda Forum HELLENICLEAGUE http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11714-Macedonian-media-a-muddle-serving-the-interests-of-power http://www.macedonians.com.au/forum/showthread.php?11707-Makedonski-speaking-children-in-Salonica&goto=newpost Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:48:55 GMT Look at that :



I don't know whether all what this guy wrote is true or not,after all in Salonica are gathered people from every part of Macedonia and one can certainly meet people that speak Slavomacedonian,however I'm 100% sure about one thing.The little girl that asked money (if this story is true) was certainly of Roma origin,I've seen myself many times children asking money at traffic lights in Salonica and all of them are Roma.But the only Roma people in Salonica that could understand Slavomacedonian are Gypsies that come from Bulgaria.After the entrance of Bulgaria to EU,many Bulgarian Gypsies cross the Greek borders looking for work,especially in the adjacent regions of Serres,Drama,Salonica e.t.c.:

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